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+- Start Date: 2014-05-22
+- RFC PR #: (leave this empty)
+- Rust Issue #: (leave this empty)
+
+# Summary
+
+Macros defined with `macro_rules!` should have the ability to count how many repetitions a `$()`
+sequence will expand to. There should also be a nonterminal that expands to the current iteration
+number inside of a `$()` sequence.
+
+# Motivation
+
+The primary motivation for counting the number of repetitions is so `vec![]`, and other similar
+macros, can preallocate enough space for the number of arguments it has. Which is to say,
+`vec![1,2,3,4,5]` currently has to allocate twice (once with a capacity of 4, and then again with a
+capacity of 8) even though the number of elements is known at compile-time.
+
+The motivation for being able to get the current iteration number is to support counting macros,
+such as `declare_special_idents_and_keywords!()` in `syntax::parse::token`.
+
+# Detailed design
+
+To support repetition counts, the `macro_rules!` parser will learn a new nonterminal syntax
+`$#(..)`, which expands to an unsuffixed integer literal equal to the count of the repetitions of
+the equivalent `$(..)*` sequence. This syntax is only used in the body and is illegal in the pattern
+section of the macro. This nonterminal may contain the same tokens that `$(..)*` does, although
+there is no practical benefit to using it with anything other than another nonterminal. For example,
+`$#(foo: $arg)` is legal, but equivalent to `$#($arg)`.
+
+To support iteration numbers, the nonterminal syntax `$(#)` expands to the iteration number of the
+current sequence (as an unsuffixed integer literal starting at 0). This looks like the existing
+nonterminal sequence syntax (minus the optional separator and trailing `*`/`+`), but a nonterminal
+sequence must contain at least one syntax variable, and so using `$(#)` does not conflict with any
+legal nonterminal sequence. Note that there is no trailing separator or `*`/`+` on this syntax.
+Disambiguating this syntax from a normal nonterminal sequence can be done by looking ahead 2 tokens
+after `$(`.
+
+With this implemented, `vec![]` can change from its current definition to the following:
+
+```rust
+macro_rules! vec(
+    ($(e:expr),*) => ({
+        let mut _temp = ::std::vec::Vec::with_capacity($#($e));
+        $(_temp.push($e);)*
+        _temp
+    });
+    ($($e:expr),+,) => (vec!($($e),+))
+)
+```
+
+# Drawbacks
+
+This adds yet more complexity to the rather fragile `macro_rules!` API.
+
+# Alternatives
+
+The alternatives for counting repetitions are:
+
+1. Create a public `count!()` macro that counts its arguments. The downside is this would only be
+   able to accept expression arguments.
+2. Fix macro hygiene and then create a private `count!()` macro for `vec![]`, and require that
+   user-created macros that need this functionality reinvent the `count!()` macro. Fixing macro
+   hygiene to allow this is rather problematic.
+3. Come up with a specialized argument pattern for `vec![]` that isn't ambiguous with the expression
+   arguments that allows for baking counting into the macro. Again, user-created macros that need
+   this functionality would have to reinvent this pattern.
+
+There is no general alternative for counting the iteration number. If expanding to a sequence of
+expressions, you can probably get away with using a mutable variable that you increment each time,
+but e.g. this won't work for creating statics. Instead you can provide the value to the macro by
+hand, the way `declare_special_idents_and_keywords!()` does.
+
+# Unresolved questions
+
+Do we need to provide any way to get the current iteration number of a parent sequence? By that I
+mean, if you have `$(foo: $($bar),*),*`, do we need to provide a way to get the outer sequence
+number from within the inner `$($bar),*` sequence?