Express TC Meeting 04-22-2020

[dougwilson]

Who

The entire community is welcome to tune in and observe the meeting live at the time below. The following people are listed here as explicit invitees to get an email notification about the upcoming meeting:

Invited:

• @expressjs/express-tc
• @expressjs/triagers

When

Apr 22, 2020 - 23:30 UTC

Where

Zoom, broadcasting on YouTube Live

• Viewers: https://youtu.be/kOKYVwIiOe0
• Participants: https://zoom.us/j/305917849

Agenda

• Discussion (maybe decision?) on where to keep org-wide documents (charter, coc, etc.)
• Discussion (maybe decision?) on where to keep personal lists for both org-wide (triagers, TC members) and repo-specific (committers, project captians)
• Express 4.18/5.0 status, blockers, next steps, etc.
• Triager discussion time(?)
  • onboarding more help from the big enterprise
  • how to get involved in Express 5, where do you start?

Propose other agenda topics which can be added to this list.

[gireeshpunathil]

Apr 22, 2020 - 23:30 UTC

aren't we meeting this week? is it a bug in the tool? have we decided to skip this week?

[dougwilson]

We can certainly meet this week if someone wants too--I have said in the past that ideally the person who can commit to hosting the TC meeting should open the issue, to not run into the few times in the past were it was opened, but then there was conflicting information on who was going to actually host it, etc. This week I am participating in an online COVID hack-a-thon and will likely not be able to host a 4/15 meeting, but if someone can, please go ahead and do so! If the traigers want to use this as the much-wanted traige meeting, they are welcome to as well.

[gireeshpunathil]

/cc @expressjs/express-tc @expressjs/triagers - Is anyone in a position to host, for 4/15 23.30?

[LinusU]

Today is not a great fit for me either so I would be happy to wait until next week 👍

[helio-frota]

Yeah next week is good for me also. 👍

[ghinks]

Maybe push off to the 22nd is not a bad idea for me too. I am attending an NPM JS rfc meeting today too which is related to the work we are doing

[gireeshpunathil]

proposed agenda: 4.18 : current status, challenges, support needed and next actions

[ghinks]

Proposed Agenda Items

• onboarding more help from the big enterprise
• how to get involved in Express 5, where do you start?

[jonchurch]

List of pending items for new releases: #100 (comment)

[dougwilson]

Express 4.18 release status:

• everything is lined up to land now
• holding pattern around the new triage & captain docs landing in the repo around the release process
  • discussion on this proceeded in the past week and i provided my recommendation at Triage Edits express#4211 (comment)
  • which is to land the non-changing parts and cut out 4.18
  • additionally, we have in query: deprecate extended query parser express#4208 (comment) discussed not landing that deprecation; some holding to hear objections, but none noted so far
  • if nothing against it in today's meeting, we will not land it

So it sounds like we have the plan now, which I will execute tonight / tomorrow morning if there were no objections 🎉

[dougwilson]

Hi everything, thanks for rocking that meeting! I was just listening to it, but I think there is something I want to bring up: it was a bit off-putting to hear me being "called out" in the meeting I wasn't attending, and then waiting to hear from me? I'm also not sure what "personal situation" etc. is being referred to there. It felt a bit personal, and I'm not sure what other's thoughts are on that particular part. I have the video, but haven't posted it up yet, as waiting to hear about the thoughts around that.

[gireeshpunathil]

@dougwilson - I don't have the recording, but if it is something that came from me, I am sorry - I wasn't fully sure about your attendance status, I thought you wanted to take part, but had something that came up unexpectedly. I remember asking who is hosting the meeting and came to know it was you, plus saw your chat messages. Again, did not mean anything tricky, just did not clearly understand your involvement in the meeting. Hope you are ok with this?

[dougwilson]

I believe that was the part, though I think the main concern I have stands regardless of if I was in the meeting or not.