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fixes the issue discussed in https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/LFfhN0CpGJ8.

However, we retain the idea of #40709 that a github release is made only in one step in the workflow. Previously, before #40709, a github release was made in two steps "Create release" and "Create release assets". This strategy worked well but started failing some months ago.

Test (with #40840): https://github.com/kwankyu/sage/actions/runs/17846547780.

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kwankyu commented Sep 24, 2025

Thanks!

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sagemathgh-40843: Restore release notes creation step
    
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fixes the issue discussed in https://groups.google.com/g/sage-
devel/c/LFfhN0CpGJ8.

However, we retain the idea of sagemath#40709 that a github release is made only
in one step in the workflow. Previously, before sagemath#40709, a github release
was made in two steps "Create release" and "Create release assets". This
strategy worked well but started failing some months ago.

Test (with sagemath#40840):
https://github.com/kwankyu/sage/actions/runs/17846547780.

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I think it's a questionable solution for a non-existent problem

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dimpase commented Sep 26, 2025

@saraedum - this is now marked "disputed"

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tobiasdiez commented Sep 26, 2025

This is very hard to evaluate since the PR description and title are misleading: release notes are currently created via

generate_release_notes: true

so this PR cannot restore a release notes creation step, as its already there. Similarly, the linked https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/LFfhN0CpGJ8 discusses some issues of the release workflow that we are currently seeing for beta releases, but if my understanding of the changes here is correct then they would only have an affect on full releases. So this PR in particular doesn't help at all fixing the issues mentioned in the sage-devel post.

So please explicitly state what issue is solved by this PR, and what the effect of this PR is. Thanks.

@vbraun vbraun merged commit 2e4ef69 into sagemath:develop Sep 27, 2025
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dimpase commented Sep 27, 2025

@saraedum @vbraun - a disputed PR has been merged without a resolution

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vbraun commented Sep 27, 2025

Sorry didn't see that the positive review was removed again, as always I can only go by the state at the time of merging

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dimpase commented Sep 27, 2025

Well, it seems that "In the Code of Conduct we trust" appears to be a religious dogma rather than something working...

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dimpase commented Sep 27, 2025

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kwankyu commented Sep 28, 2025

So please explicitly state what issue is solved by this PR, and what the effect of this PR is.

https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/YFQYrdziwe0/m/JcyqmGQTAwAJ

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dimpase commented Sep 28, 2025

this is a link to a long rant regarding a horrible, horrible state of Sage development in general.

No explanation of what this restored 20 lines are meant to be doing, and why Sage cannot be just like a normal project - a project which doesn't try to partition contributions into "beta" slots. Such a listing of contributions could be accomplished by the standard GH Action, and would be much more convenient to use than a plain text file without hyperlinks.

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I guess it comes down to what kind of release notes one prefer for stable releases:

A: The minimal ones that show the changes since the previous RC:
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B: The extended ones that show the changes since the previous stable release:
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@vbraun any preference?

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vbraun commented Sep 29, 2025

I don't really have to do much with the release notes, those are downstream from making releases. But B) is obviously more useful for non-developers.

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kwankyu commented Sep 30, 2025

As this discussion needs attention of the community, I created a sage-devel thread:

https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/RlaicLMbEO8

where we can continue this discussion.

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I don't really have to do much with the release notes, those are downstream from making releases. But B) is obviously more useful for non-developers.

It's just that you positively reviewed this PR whose only point is to replace option B by option A. So I thought you have strong reasons to prefer A over B.

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